64 It's a.....THEYBY! Gender Open/Gender Creative Parenting with Bobby and Lesley Part 2 of 2. THE BIRTH STORY.

In this incredibly special 2-part series, Heidi interviews Bobby and Lesley, the couple who have fully embraced the Gender Creative Parenting movement in raising their child Sojourner Wildfire. In part two, Lesley and Bobby share stories about their childbirth experience, the difficulty of finding a vegan-friendly baby formula, and how utilizing a doula was part of their ideal birth story.

Trigger warning for the episode: discussion of suicide and suicide rates specifically relating to transgender individuals.